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Post by kaos » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:31 am

So whats gonna happen to the place?

a lot of people think invasion is the solution, but I think it just creates an alternative problem.

whoever invades, no matter who they are, or how close they are.
is going to want some stake in the place.

Cuzz honestly, nobody is going to do it for free.



Edit: I'd never heard of the AU till now.
They might be the only ones that could solve this without making too much of a mess.

Sure, like everyone else they'd want some political stake. but, it would probably fall in line with what they're already trying to do.
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Post by Mik » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:11 am

what stuff they got, we can sell afterwards ?
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Post by Chewi » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:13 am

I've heard of the AU but I didn't think they had a military front. Them invading sounds like the best idea to me. The country might even dissolve but I don't think it matters because there isn't much left of it. It'd be better than the people continuing to suffer under that madman.

Taking out Muguabe probably wouldn't be that hard but taking out his warlords could be very tough indeed. I'm not sure how many of them there are.
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Post by kaos » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:32 am

That seems like the hardest thing.

They have troops, and they've used them before...
even in Darfur.

But it seems like most of the problem areas where they've been deployed have a similar situation, where they're fighting against an ambiguous kind of enemy rather than a clear cut one.

If they could manage the situation in Zimbabwe, and make it a clean win. I think it would be good for the whole continent. and it would defiantly give the AU some steam and respect.
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Post by Mik » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:19 am

This where the real hypocracy of the 'war of terror' really slaps you in the face, this guy is a clear cut cunt but none wants to try and take him out.

Africa is a fucked up place, but they buy guns so it's all good, let them carry on.
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Post by kaos » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:45 am

yeah...
no oil, no help.

not that we're 'helping' anyone anywhere else.
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Post by Squirrel » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:54 pm

To be honest it is there shit to deal with. If any other country just butts in on the business that country is most likely going to be an enemy of Zimbabwe. I don't like the situation there neither, but to be honest it is no one elses business.
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Post by kaos » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:34 pm

so after whatever happens happens...

is their any hope for some stabilization at all, or does it just become a wasteland?
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Post by Squirrel » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:12 pm

I won't even say what Ed believes we should all do...

If it becomes a wasteland, it becomes a wasteland. I am not gonna loose sleep over this.
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Post by Chewi » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:18 pm

What strikes me is the resilience of some of the Zimbabwean people I've seen interviewed. One guy was in a hospital, half beaten to death, and he said he would still vote MDC.
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Post by Squirrel » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:36 pm

They are very resilient. Maybe they come across as scared. I don't know. But I really don't think we should interfere. I mean look at Iraq. Look at the men that have lost there lives, and it wasn't even because of Saddam, or WMD. Just over oil.
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Post by kaos » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:38 pm

yeah, but its kinda sad when integrity, outside of hollywood movies and fairytales, is such a rare thing that people are taken aback by it.

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Post by Mik » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:59 am

Problem is even if they wanted to, the US can't interfere, they simply don't have the man power, UK is worse.
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Post by Matt » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:46 am

We should've invaded Burma the second they refused foreign aid.
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Post by Chewi » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:03 pm

"We're optimisic, up-beat..."

Up-beat? Yeah that's because you beat-up your opponents. Twat.
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